'Not A Villain' Webcomic - Sandra expresses understanding but Kleya still refuses to move to her City..

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If you knew how to fix anything remotely computerish, you also had a high chance of getting sucked into the Hacker Hunts.

For the vote incentive, let's check out Sandra's thoughts on this exchange!

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People always have a choice Sandra. It may not be good for them, or anyone else, but they always have a choice.

truer words are seldom spoken (or written) 🙂

That’s why I keep all my knowledge of how to fix things secret from everyone always. You never know when an angry mob could try to murder the talented and educated.

… I totally wish I was kidding. :,(

That is a scary thought, having all slightly computerized systems destroyed/disabled, while all digi-savy people have been slaughtered in the streets.

Last week my theory was that Sandra is perhaps a representative from the ‘defunct Germany city’ that was mentioned before. Because of her dislike for Tenka. However, she said that they have no programmers left, that excludes Germany (since they expected hackers to come from there, which implies that its only ‘defunct’ because they do not play by the New World Order rules).

By the looks of it she is in an influential position in another city that (probably like many others) do not like Tenka (common, a ‘programmers collective/organisation’ monopoly that promises to be nice? Like people believe that after the Hacker attacks).
She most likely desperately wants to have a good programmer in her service to keep her city on track.

We could really use a forum of some kind for all these theories. People keep bringing in similar (often flawed) ideas twice a week.
It will need to be moderated though, and seeing how restrictive the current comment system is… (pre-post moderation? Are we in China?)

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As long as I have no problems login in… I’d be fine with the forum idea.

I prefer a comment system that doesn’t require people to log in or jump through hoops to leave a comment. However, that also means I get a ton of spam. Hence the pre-post moderation.

A forum would be cool but, alas, I wouldn’t have the time to moderate it 🙁

A forum at this stage probably wouldnt require that much moderation. I mean, the forum probably consist of a Comic section, a General section, and possibly a Games section (which, for the purposes of this, can be ignored unless someone points out a problem). You seem to be getting maybe 30-40 comments per comic atm, which isnt all that many. Frankly, I would be surprised if you got many posts and threads in the comic section beyond the first opening and reaction threads to specific comics 9though the comment system works perfect for this). There are only so many theories that can be produced at a time.

for the general section mostly keep an eye on them to make sure nothing gets out of hand, and if there are too many posts appoint someone as a moderator or demi mod.

Considering what I have seen of forums of webcomics which are not huge popular everyone-knows-and-reads in the past, you probably would get maybe 100 posts at maximum outside the games area a week. of course, this excludes the possibility of a group who have nothing better to do taking up residence on the forum as their main hangout, which seems unlikely tbh.

With a forum, you can have a system of sign up which would cut down on spam. A spam bot that can sign up for something is more complicated than one thats just posts a comment. Have a thread for reporting them you keep an eye on should be good enough for the occasional spam bot.

Of course, these are the musings of someone who has never run a webcomic or forum, or really looked at many webcomic forums (not that many of them about really). At the same time, I agree a forum for this webcomic would be beneficial. Your story telling style leaves us in suspense and allows lots of WMG. 😀

be nice to have a forum so we can whack each other over the head with ideas and see what falls out. but that kind of stuff takes alot time to moderate even with only a few people. sides, its not really neccessary at the moment. we seem to be making due fairly well right now.

Could always ask your fans…bet you could get a few moderators, especially if you stuck to the basic rules.

True. I’ve thought of that. But as thegreatpl mentioned, the forum may end up being rather sparse, which is never cool.

I think I’ll stick with this comment system for now until we really start to outgrow it.

Thanks for everyone’s input!

Fans could start a site on Wikia. That would require logins, however.

When Aneeka talks about moderation and spam, she isn’t talking about the posts we see. Any web site that allows comments gets targeted by spam bots that post links to sites selling all kinds of junk. Without moderation, the comments section would be flooded with these posts. Logins can help cut this down, but the spambots can get past that, too. A large site like Wikia maintains lists of domains and ip addresses they simply don’t allow logins from.

…Wow, Sandra is super unreasonable. Being a player in the Game would already be a full time job, because that’s the only way it makes sense. Celebrities typically have very little time between being celebrities and doing the things that made them celebrities. Even if Kleya didn’t have to fear for her life, there’s no way anyone would have time to maintain a city’s infrastructure while doing that.

It takes an IT team with a double-digit staff count just to maintain the computers in a building of 1600 people, let alone a city with tens of thousands, and life support systems, and everything else.

Of course, it’s totally realistic that Sandra would assume that one programmer can do anything (heck, I get that a lot in my life and programmers are commonplace that people should know our limits), but that doesn’t make it any less crappy.

Being in the game is probably why she wants her in the city. So they can monitor her body while in the game because if you don’t log out and take care of yourself you would end up dying. like Danni’s partner did.

heh. Well I’d be double’y d***** by them hunts. A programmer? And a REAL hacker?

Kleya, a hero would go to a big city. ALL the heroes go to big cities. You don’t see Superman staying in Smallville do ya? You gotta go so stop complaining!

Hmmm, blobs had the hardest lines to read huh? *reads*

Heh, heh, poor saps. No one can fix anything. Hmm, they had robots?

I guess that shouldn’t be a total surprised. The AIs are pretty sophisticated. Actually, robots may have been mentioned before I don’t recall offhand if it was. Killer robots are a good way of slaughtering people too. Hmm, also, all the computers got trashed?

Whaaaaaa? All the computers? How on earth did they set up the LiFe game then? You need computers for that and it’s been less then 5 years yet we were told that pretty well everyone is linked to the Life game? How does that work? Clearly, the blobs are exaggerating, I think.

What if she no longer has a body to move….

she’d be dead

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I get the feeling these “Hacker Hunts”are really a scam started by TenKa for control.

Nah, Deconstruct Me started things, that’s why Kleya needs redemption.

I dont know for sure if we ever found out that Deconstruct Me STARTED things. Was a major player in whatever started the Hacker Hunts, yeah, definitely. Hell, it might have been a hacker war between different parties which started hitting infrastructure. Whatever it was, I think due to Kleya’s attitude towards TenKa they were a major player.

In fact, do we know for sure if Kleya saw what she was doing when she founded DM wrong at that time? for all we know, she considered herself a freedom fighter and that she was doing the right thing.

Whatever it was, DM had to have some sort of goal in mind, of which we havent seen anything of really. You couldnt have gathered a group together without some sort of aim.

It’s pretty clear past Kleya was an egomaniac though.

true that. she just “wanted to win”. but agianst what was she trying to win, in what way? she obviously had TENka ties and was DM. why did she start it and did TENka know about her activities in DM? cause lets not forget that good ol TENka seems ruthless enough for machiavellian practices.

Heh. “Plan C” indeed.

I seem to recall Kleya would have considered moving to Japan City if anywhere, because that’s where Saisuke might be. Which City is Sandra wanting to move her to?

At least Sandra seems to accept that Kleya has good reasons to want to avoid Cities. Just being a decent programmer is a good enough reason to be nervous, never mind Kleya’s own personal history. On the other hand, Sandra is probably hoping to talk Kleya into doing some programming outside of the Game, to reduce her City’s dependency on TENka. It would be good for Kleya to have a chance to be a real hero, not just a Game entertainment hero, but she’s not going to make it easy for Sandra to give her that chance.

TENka is hunting Kleya so going to a city there in is like walking right into a den of ravenous wolfs (not suggested)

incorrect, that was Kleya’s “manager” little sister. Kleya just did what she always does. make a face without commenting or drawing attention to herself.

Tre for the win i just realized that too.

no choice huh? perhaps Sandra intends to use her status as sponsor to force Kleya’s hand? problem is that Kleya would prolly be kicked back out into whatever the local varient of the poison swamp of doom is around there and Sandra along with her for bringing Kleya there as soon as Kleya was imported in.

yeah, I keep seeing Sandra learning things Kleya wants to keep underwraps just cause Sandra is so aggressive in her attitude and definitely no fool.

also why this talk like Sandra expects Kleya to play the game and work city infrastructure? thats not feasable and Sandra is not stupid. I think she is just commenting that there are not enough techies to not rely on TENka. which is why she wants Kleya. she is savvy and not TENka. like finding a diamond in in the pile of fermenting poo you have been thrown in. you grab it, wash it off and use it.

Indeed, and Sandra has already washed off the diamond and found it to be genuine. It’ll be hard to not fall further into her grasp. : )

I hope she finds out her city is special somehow and she can hide there…

arg,frustrating how little gets revealed about the hows and whys. we know why Kleya can’t go to a city, near instant death. but why is Sandra so persistant about the city thing? guess we will find out next comic. also, Kleya can’t do cat and mouse worth beans, Sandra has to have her suspicions already. but then that might be why Sandra wants Kleya so bad. a rogue like Kleya is worth her weight in gold in the world they live in.

dead or alive depending on who your talking to.

alive. they can just make sure she no longer has the ability to ship in food to kill her. easy. too many way to kill an outsider I suspect.

Ask Kleya why.
Why does no one ever think to ask why a person won’t do something? It would prevent so much miscommunication and false assumptions.

because people are pushy and often don’t give a s*** about other people, even the ones who are about to be used.

While you’re at it, ask Sandra why. Aneeka told us we were about to learn more about the interface. At a guess, being remote slows down the connection to the Game and that delay will end up getting Katv8 killed in the long run. Or Sandra knows that Kleya won’t have time to scrounge for food Outside if she’s in the Game. Or Sandra figures real-world threats will go after Kleya’s body because they want someone else to win in the Game.

Dramatic enigmatic declarations are the stuff of fiction, but this kind of thing drives me crazy in real life….

about the food issue she’s shown as being able to order it early on, spending her money on other stuff instead

Oh LOL, Plan A, B and C are hilarious. Sandra is indeed a paragon of intimidating rationality (interesting how she’s both nice (well, she could work on that) and mean at the same time). 🙂

Nice job on making her “Bristle” like that, it’s a very nice visual effect adding to the story

Riots where they killed all the hackers, huh?

Let’s be honest, what we REALLY need are some riots to kill all the people creating spam and spam-bots.

It wouldn’t end there, because a LOT of people can’t tell a programmer from a virus-writer.

No. No we really really really don’t. Not riots.

What we need are stronger laws about what is/isn’t lawful to put on other people’s computers without their informed consent, and a willingness to enforce those laws.

The problem with a lot of spam and spam bots is that no one knows where they come from. Some of them can be found with a little bit of research, others would take a serious investigation, and a riot wouldn’t do either. It really would be a witch hunt.

it would be like the Salem witch hunt with a touch of world war 2

more like WW3 😀

oh right… nvm, in our world, thought you meant NAV history

Character development never ends with this webcomic…
I’m so very glad I found NAV a year ago. 😀 Thank you, Aneeka!

I wonder how well Sandra suspects…

anyho, it just occured to me that perhaps the reason Jane is kinda psycho is because she knows a bit of designing too, she must’ve had a hard time.

though not by far and wide as good as our heroine of course : )

does this mean we might possibly see.. the outside world? O.o

Not A Villain Webcomic

Webcomic of a semi- reformed hacker trying to redeem herself in a post- apocalyptic world she may have created.

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